It takes a hacker to defeat a hacker.

The 60 Minutes episode spotlighted the growing ransomware crisis, with a focus on the MGM and Caesars casino hacks carried out by the group Scattered Spider and their alliance with Russia’s BlackCat gang. It showed how simple social engineering calls to help desks spiraled into multimillion-dollar disruptions, and how young English-speaking hackers are now merging with veteran Russian operators to scale attacks.
I was interviewed as the former NSA Director of Cybersecurity explaining that the Colonial Pipeline attack was a wake-up call that forced the U.S. to treat ransomware as a serious foreign threat. I truly believe “it takes a hacker to defeat a hacker,” and noted how NSA’s cyber expertise and intelligence functions helped identify key perpetrators. While Russia briefly arrested Colonial Pipeline attackers in 2022, they released them once the Ukraine war began, illustrating how geopolitics shields ransomware gangs. Ransomware is no longer just a business disruption but a state-enabled security challenge. By connecting casino heists, Russian safe havens, and the alliance between Western youth hackers and Russian syndicate, you can see that ransomware has evolved into a geopolitical arms race requiring nation-state defenses.
"Sometimes it takes a hacker to defeat a hacker." See a clip here:
https://youtu.be/lEwC1tN2jb8
Full episode here: